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9:11 am October 27, 2012
| Mike J
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Any ideas/suggestions as to retrofitting a propane heater in a 14RB? Want to do some winter camping and our small but efficient ceramic heater doesn't cut it.
Make ?
Costs ?
Feasability?
Thanks,
Mike
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2010 KZ Sportsmen Classic 14RB – 2009 RAV4 V6
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11:52 am October 27, 2012
| Mike M
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Hey, why not is what I say. Here's one very similar, if not exactly what came in my 190: http://www.americanrvcompany.c…..11528.html
The first quuestion I'd ask you is does your unit have propane on it now? If not, you're probably looking at another couple hundred bucks to outfit it with a 20lb setup. The advantage there would be that you can then eventually go with a propane cooktop, fridge and hot water heater, thereby really expanding your dry camping options.
Of course any of this is only really feasible if you can do it yourself. If you can't, you're probably better off trading in and getting a unit with the option package already installed.
Good luck!
Mike M.
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2012 190 pulled by a 2011 F150 Supercab 3.7 2wd.
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8:53 pm October 27, 2012
| punkozuna
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Post edited 4:29 am – October 28, 2012 by punkozuna
In addition to a 1500 watt space heater with fan, we've bought a 700 watt oil filled space heater. Both run without tripping a breaker and so far have kept us warm into the low 30s.
Also, a catalytic heater than run propane might be worth condsidering. Here's a link that shows several different heaters.
http://www.nextag.com/catalyti…..res-html#!
One of the 6000btu units might be big enough if you aren't doing severe cold weather camping. The Olympian brand comes in up to 8000 BTU.
Here's a short article someone wrote about using theirs in an RV. They have the advantage of not using electricity – good for power outages or dry camping.
http://vagabonders-supreme.net…..ympian.htm
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10:14 am October 29, 2012
| Mike J
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Post edited 5:40 pm – October 29, 2012 by Mike J
Mike M said:
Hey, why not is what I say. Here's one very similar, if not exactly what came in my 190: http://www.americanrvcompany.c…..11528.html
Mike M.
Thanks. I do have propane. Looking at pics of the 190, which is the heater – -under the closet or under the frig?
Also interesting in that I contacted KZ and they say that they do NOT recommend propane heaters, that what they provide as option is electric.
Also understand that I may be confusing people by using the word "heater". I'm told that heater refers to catalytic heaters, while furnace refers to just that, a ILP furnace.
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10:43 am October 29, 2012
| ron_sue
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Post edited 5:53 pm – October 29, 2012 by ron_sue
i was wondering about this. our rig is just one year apart from yours so i would assume that there was not that much change. i did not know the furnace was and "option". we have a thermostat mounted near the bathroom door frame that controls the furnace under the couch. (brown grill about 1 foot square) these have electronic ignitions so all you have to do is turn on the gas and set the thermostat. (it runs off dc so have the battery charged or be hooked to shore power. ) i believe the fan starts immediately followed by clicking sounds (igniter) until the burner lights. if its been a while since it has been lit it may need to purge the air from its system, but it does that on its on by repeating its attempts to light every minute or so. if you don't have this, then maybe you have the wiring and the gas line already there. its my understanding that the 14rk is all electric with a hot plate and a dorm fridge but yours should have a gas stove top, gas water heater and a two way fridge (gas and ac). the furnace will run you out but is a little loud for us so we use a remote controlled ceramic heater mostly.
one more thing, make sure the adustment slide is all the way to off when you are done. (it should click) or it could come on when it gets real cold.
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2011 14RB /2006 dodge dakota 4×4 (giddy up 4.7l v8) (whoa prodigy p2) Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. John Muir
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1:38 pm October 29, 2012
| sandersmr
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I don't remember what rating my furnace is, but I do remember it's the same furnace that goes in much bigger units so I figured it would roast as out of trailer and home. Plus, the sales guy warned us it would empty a 20 lb bottle in short order.
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2010 16BH towed by 2002 F-150 Super Crew 4.6L V8
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6:04 pm October 29, 2012
| Mike M
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Mike, it's under the fridge in the 190. It sounds like ron_sue has a lot of great input in that he has the same unit as you only with the furnace. Maybe he could snap some pics of the installation for you? As far as I can see, most trailers below a certain square footage come with a 16K BTU furnace, so some it will blow you out of while others it will work to heat it.
ron_sue mentioned the noise, which is definitely a factor. The blower is somewhat loud, even though it only draws 3.1 amps. He also mentioned the t-stat, which I've had the same experience with. If you don't push it all the way to "off", the heat kicks on in the middle of the night when the temps hit the mid-high 30's.
For dry camping I run the heat for 30-60 minutes around bedtime, then shut it off. When I wake up in the morning, I run it again to take the chill off. This way you don't drain that 20lb tank like some have talked about. You could even leave the t-stat set way down and just let it kick in a couple of times through the night. Maybe some want it 70* all night, but that's sure to suck up the propane.
Mike M.
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11:31 am November 1, 2012
| Mike J
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Wow, some ecellent information here from all of you. One of my concerns is propane consumption, so I called Airexcel/Suburban manufacturing tech support and they suggested for the 16K figure 3 lbs per hour. Assume that's having the furnace on constantly for an hour. A second question, which I failed to ask, was how sensitive the thermostat is; is it abot the same as our average house thermostat?
Appreciate your comments on this.
Mike
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2:26 pm November 1, 2012
| DougB
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We just returned from a 3 night dry camping trip and used gas furnace in our 16bh. I set the thermostat at around 63 degrees at night and we had temperatures in the high 30's. It worked well and as far as I could tell didn't use much propane at all. No issue with battery drain either. With these small trailers it really doesn't have to run that much, I'm sure the total running time overnight was well under an hour.
As someone mentioned the downside is the noisy fan. I would say the thermostat has about the same sensitivity as a house thermostat.
Doug
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3:02 pm November 1, 2012
| Bud
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Just returned from 9 nights. We used the furnace off and on. Wealso used the stove in the trailer and the water heater. I don't know how much propane was in the bottle when we left home but we still had propane when weg ot home
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2013 Classic 20RBT towed with a 2002 f-150 Super Crew 5.4
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