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7:17 am
July 8, 2012


Mike & Diana

Lake Corpus Christi Texas

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Headed out w/our 2011 19SB to spend a few days on the Gulf over the 4th. Got about a mile down the road when I noticed something through my side mirror on the drivers side TT tire. Got out to inspect it and to my surprise a bubble, about the size of a softball had formed on the side wall. It continued to grow until it burst. The tire still had air in it, but had a small leak. I guess this leak was between the inner / outer tire wall.  Lucky we were close to home and could limp it to a garage to replace it w/the spare. We only have about 6K-7K miles on the TT.KZ said I was out of warranty, but gave me the manufacturers number. Plan to call Monday.

Anyone else have any similiar problems?

Also, what type of jack does anyone use. Need to get one in case I'm stuck out somewhere more remote w/a similar problem?

Also, where is the best location to place a jack on one of the TT?

10:53 am
July 8, 2012


ron_sue

Soddy Daisy Tennessee

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posts 109

were these the oem tires? i have been eyeing the squatty little Ba@#$ds myself thinking i would replace them soon.   from a bad pop-up experience where a hydraulic jack would not fit between the road and the axle because of how the tire blew and where i had to stop,  i would recommend a scissor type jack. they are simple, cheap and versatile. as far as storage goes, i cheated a little since this is the type of jack my truck uses, it stores in a compartment in the floor board of the truck, but they don't take that much space.  Now would also be a good time to pick up a lug wrench if you don't have one.(all our camper came with was an awning rod and the stabilizer crank).


oops, misread:  my vote is to put the jack under the axle. if you put it under the frame you would have to overcome the spring travel and might "run out of jack" before high enough to put a tire back on.

2011 14RB /2006 dodge dakota 4×4 (giddy up 4.7l v8) (whoa prodigy p2) Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. John Muir

11:07 am
July 8, 2012


pfidahospud

Post Falls, Idaho

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posts 107

I wondered about the jack issue myself.  Last time I rotated the tires on my tow vehicle I used the jack to lift one side of the axle of the trailer.  The scissor jack could do it, but not easily.  After that I got an old bottle jack and put it in the outside storage area 'just in case'.  I'm not sure about the 19SB but there's plenty of room in outside storage in the 14RB.

In other forums I've seen suggestions for replacing tires as young as three years solely due to sun damage / dry rot. 

Tow-er: 2010 RAV4 3.5L 269 hp V6 with Tow Pkg ~ Tow-ee: 2011 Sportsmen Classic 14RB ~ Director: The wife

8:12 am
July 9, 2012


Mike M

SE Massachusetts

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posts 88

Post edited 3:15 pm – July 9, 2012 by Mike M


Like some others have said here, my truck jack should work in the event of a flat tire.  If you're using leveling blocks to level the trailer while camping, they could also be used to gain more clearance under the axle to get the jack in.  Just pull the flat tire/wheel up onto the blocks like you would in the campground, and that should raise it up enough. 

Someone else mentioned running out of jack, which is definitely a problem when trying to lift by the frame.  If you're carrying blocks to use under your stabilizer jacks and tongue jack, then these could be used to gain jack travel by putting them between the jack and frame before jacking.

When I first got my 190, I tried a few things in anticipation of a future issue.  I found that a scissors jack from a car was not strong enough.  It might lift it, but it's at the limit and a little scary stability-wise. Remember, fully loaded these units have a lot of weight per wheel, much more than a car.  If you can find a mechanical bottle jack out of a medium-duty pickup it will be much more capable and safer.  A hydraulic bottle jack is also a good option, but a bit heavier than the mechanical ones.

I've also been keen on following the tire issues, as with only one per side it seems only prudent to do so.  My unit came with "Freestar" tires.  In comparing them to a name brand such as Carlisle, I noticed that they are rated one load range lower for the same size range.  I'm considering buying two Carlisle tires and one rim, then putting the Carlisle's on the trailer and having two mounted Freestar's for spares when out on the road.

Mike M.

2012 190 pulled by a 2011 F150 Supercab 3.7 2wd.

4:17 pm
July 11, 2012


Mike & Diana

Lake Corpus Christi Texas

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posts 93

Thanks for all the input.

It was a Freestar ST 205/75R14 that had the problem. Replaced with an $85.00 Carlisle.

Just filled my claim with Tireco…Freestar manufacturer. They'll have UPS pick it up in a few days. After they inspect I should receive a prorated amount back against the Freestar.

I had a lug wrench and will get a good bottle jack soon.

11:50 am
July 14, 2012


ron_sue

Soddy Daisy Tennessee

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posts 109

Just a quick thought as to why I recommended a scissor jack.  Just using the tires in question Freestar ST 205/75R14, load range c and Max Load: 1,760 lb.  jacks are rated by ton, so the minimum rating that should be used here would be 1 ton (88% of max. in this case)  The smallest hydraulic bottle jacks  that I can find online have 2 ton ratings, and a minimum lift range a little over 7 inches.  Although comparable capacity (2 ton) scissor jacks have about the same min. lift range, 1 ton and 1.5 ton models have min. lift ranges down in the 3 inch range.   Assuming a blowout and a 14 inch rim, the max space between the ground and the center of the axle would be 7 inches.  I feel like the safest point to lift from is under the springs where the axle crosses which I am sure subtracts at least two inches from the available ground clearance.  Uneven terrain could possibly reduce that more.   This tire has an outer diameter of 26.7 inches meaning you will have to raise the center of the axle to about 13.5 inches to get the new one on.( about 7 inches from where you started.   To me both these jacks are "emergency use only".  You would be on the side of the road connected safely to your tow vehicle off, in park with the e brake locked down.  A wheel bearing repack or similar activity at home means using a hydraulic floor jack then a jack stand  as a backup( I don’t trust my life to rubber o rings that those jacks use so much of)  just food for thought.Wink

2011 14RB /2006 dodge dakota 4×4 (giddy up 4.7l v8) (whoa prodigy p2) Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. John Muir

6:02 am
July 15, 2012


Mike & Diana

Lake Corpus Christi Texas

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posts 93

Good analysis.

The only concern I still have with scissor jacks, is that the ones I've seen all had a head on them that pivoted side-to-side, which I feel introduces some unnecessary instability.

6:49 am
August 14, 2012


Mike & Diana

Lake Corpus Christi Texas

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posts 93

Mike & Diana said:

Thanks for all the input.

It was a Freestar ST 205/75R14 that had the problem. Replaced with an $85.00 Carlisle.

Just filled my claim with Tireco…Freestar manufacturer. They'll have UPS pick it up in a few days. After they inspect I should receive a prorated amount back against the Freestar.

I had a lug wrench and will get a good bottle jack soon.


Got a check from TireCo a few days ago. 75% prorated. The check was for $45.75.

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