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8:47 am January 19, 2011
| Steve
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Are the Maxxis and Goodyear Marathon's the only best brands out there? I really am hoping for a third option,
1. I read that KZ does not recommend Maxxis for their trailers
2. After all the Goodyear horror stories I've read, I simply don't trust them any longer.
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10:40 am January 19, 2011
| smilinjohn
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Post edited 6:45 pm – January 26, 2011 by smilinjohn
Steve said:
Are the Maxxis and Goodyear Marathon's the only best brands out there? I really am hoping for a third option,
1. I read that KZ does not recommend Maxxis for their trailers
2. After all the Goodyear horror stories I've read, I simply don't trust them any longer.
Steve, what is your source for "KZ does not recommend Maxxis"? What tire brand (s) do they recommend? Perhaps, that source is me. See my added post further down this thread.
I suppose KZ owns a good share of the China-made tire company that they put on several of their products.
I replaced the 14RK China-made tires that came came with our TT, resizing from ST175/R13 to ST185/R13 and have not had any issues whatsoever. I appreciate the additional margin of safety.
Goodyear Marathons, now made in USA, need some proving before I'll trust them again.
John
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2:19 pm January 19, 2011
| Steve
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Post edited 9:22 pm – January 19, 2011 by Steve
I found that when I searched the threads here. I don't recall who posted that exactly, but he said he spoke to KZ and that's what their engineers said about the Maxxis brand. He did say they recommended the goodyear brand.
John can you explain to me what the 175 versus 185 difference is. I'm not that well versed on tires other than rim sizes.
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8:00 pm January 19, 2011
| mbanda
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Steve,
Here is some info (maybe more than you want ) on tire measurements. I wonder if anyone has gone to a 14 inch tire. I'd like to have them in addition to a wider tire on mine if possible. I have also heard some folks talking about trailer tires made to handle a higher load. Thoughts anyone?
Matthew
ST = If a tire size begins with "ST," it signifies the tire is a "Special Trailer Service" size that was designed to only be used on boat, car or utility trailers. ST-sized tires should never be used on cars, vans or light trucks.
Section Width
Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.
P225/50R16 91S
The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).
225mm / 25.4 = 8.86″
Sidewall Aspect Ratio
Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.
P225/50R16 91S
The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86″) and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43″.
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11:31 pm January 19, 2011
| smilinjohn
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Post edited 6:58 pm – January 22, 2011 by smilinjohn
Steve and Matthew……trailer tires made to handle a higher load…..the greater margin of safety that I referred to in my first post……my logic:
ST175/80R13…..C-rated @50 PSI Cold = 1360 Lbs. load capacity per tire…..2(1360) = 2720 Lbs.
ST185/80R13…..C-rated @50 PSI Cold = 1480 Lbs. load capacity per tire…..2(1480) = 2960 Lbs.
The GVWR of my Sport Classic 14RK is 2700 Lbs. Thus, margin of safety is increased 260 Lbs. over the GVWR and 240 Lbs. over the standard size ST175/80R13 tire, with the use of the ST185/80R13. NOTE: The brand I replaced the original China-made tire with was Maxxis.
More info.:
http://www.maxxistires.com/Ind…..adial.aspx
http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pro…..athon.html
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4:34 pm January 20, 2011
| mbanda
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Sorry, I did not make myself very clear. I wonder can tires be purchased with different load ratings, i.e. can I buy the same size tire with different load ratings? And if so, what load rating should I get for a 16bh? Thanks
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9:13 am January 21, 2011
| Steve
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I did see 175/80 r13's with a lower load rating on them. It was the Maxxis link that had them.
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1:22 pm January 22, 2011
| smilinjohn
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mbanda said:Sorry, I did not make myself very clear. I wonder can tires be purchased with different load ratings, i.e. can I buy the same size tire with different load ratings? And if so, what load rating should I get for a 16bh? Thanks
Yes, both B and C load ratings can be had with all ST (std. trailer) tires.
Without flipping your axle, your max tire is ST185/80R13 C-rated. Yet, you might still check for tire clearance modifying with 14″ hubs / rims on a flipped axle. Perhaps, KZ Engineering group should be consulted, too.John
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12:06 pm January 26, 2011
| smilinjohn
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smilinjohn said:
Steve said:
Are the Maxxis and Goodyear Marathon's the only best brands out there? I really am hoping for a third option,
1. I read that KZ does not recommend Maxxis for their trailers
2. After all the Goodyear horror stories I've read, I simply don't trust them any longer.
Steve, what is your source for "KZ does not recommend Maxxis"? What tire brand (s) do they recommend? Perhaps, that source is me. See my added post further down this thread.
I replaced the 14RK China-made tires that came came with our TT, resizing from ST175/R13 to ST185/R13 and have not had any issues whatsoever. I appreciate the additional margin of safety.
Goodyear Marathons, now made in USA, need some proving before I'll trust them again.
John
Steve: Reference "Tires" in "Repairs & Maintenance" forum, initiated by Jenny and George (jjmummert). When referring to our 14RK, with its 13″ tires, I said "I had wanted to replace with Maxxis ST-205/75R14, but KZ-RV Design Engineering did not recommend, as not enough clearance in the wheel wells." So, Steve, perhaps my statement was taken out of context or remembered only in part.
John
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12:49 pm January 26, 2011
| Steve
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I did just glance at it. That still leaves me with only two choices though. I was hoping there would be a third brand/choice, but there doesn't appear to be one.
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6:24 pm January 26, 2011
| smilinjohn
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Steve, Kenda perhaps has an ST rated tire. Seems that they have faired about as good as the China-made tires, though.
John
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1:29 pm January 27, 2011
| Steve
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Not that I don't trust my people, but I don't wanna buy Chinese tires. I think they'd make a better tire if they knew what this was all about. They just don't get the whoke RV thing, yet. I'll just stick to the food and teas.
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