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8:14 am
June 6, 2011


lfcpa

Lubbock, TX

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After years of pulling popup campers we got a 2010 14rb. Got it last week (used) and took it on the first trip this past weekend. I had read about how bad the gas mileage was so I was prepared for bad results. What I got wasn't all that bad. Tow vehicle is a 2010 Xterra. Pulled a 2010 14RB. Used antisway but no load equalizer. Have Firestone air bags assisting the back shocks of the Xterra. We had a tail wind of 30+ going and a head wind coming back of 20+. Cross winds and trucks passing were no problem. I could definitely feel the trailer and the wind resistance but had no control problems. Speed –  I towed with the OD off limiting my top gear to 4th. The State park was about a hundred miles away. I towed 50-55 and often 60 but mostly 50-55. I tried to keep the speedometer about 55 but with a strong headwind or even crosswind the Xterra seemed happier sometimes at 52. The roads were lightly traveled and we were in no hurry. Gas mileage with the tailwind was just a bit over 16mpg and returning into the 20mph headwind we got just a bit over 14. I was very surprised. The terrian was flat to rolling. The 14RB was loaded lightly with camping gear but the tanks were empty.

Hope the take the rig to Colorado or NM mountains this summer. I think it will do fine if I don't get in a hurry. I will load the trailer lightly. I do think a v8 truck would be better but the Xterra will be our our only tow vehicle for the future until it's paid for.

In the introduction thread I had mentioned that the trailer springs squeaked a lot. I lubed them (mainly the spring brackets) with dupont spray teflon dry wax spray. It helped some but I think I need to lube them several more times before I can say it works well.

We did have a problem with the hot water heater. It lit just fine and the water heated ok but after about 45 mintues the water started gushing out of the water pressure relief valve near the top of the water heater. Not dripping, it was gushing. I think either it is a defective pressure relief valve or the thermostat that controls water temperature is defective. All ideas are welcomed. Anyone had a similar problem?

5000 btu a/c did just fine in mid 90s heat. Not freezing cold in the trailer but comfortably cool.

Very please with the trailer overall.

Lee

2:05 pm
June 7, 2011


ron_sue

Soddy Daisy Tennessee

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Post edited 9:06 pm – June 7, 2011 by ron_sue


Looking at the numbers, you already have a little more horsepower than my v8 although i have a few more torque pounds to work with.  I would assume that most of the domestic v8s in the 4 to 5 liter range would be similar.  i got into this when i traded my v6 endeavor in and i wish i hadn't.  the endeavor was a much better driving vehicle and got similar mileage to what you quoted. the manufacturer  said i could handle the load of the trailer but  i grew up with the v8 power (69 mustang) and the old adage of sending a boy to do a mans job etc. etc. Honestly, the only thing i gained was a bigger box to haul my stuff, lower mileage on a day to day basis, and another payment.

just my $.008 (2 cents before inflation)Embarassed

2011 14RB /2006 dodge dakota 4×4 (giddy up 4.7l v8) (whoa prodigy p2) Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. John Muir

8:53 pm
June 7, 2011


lfcpa

Lubbock, TX

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Post edited 1:52 pm – June 8, 2011 by lfcpa


Thanks for the reply. Your comments make me feel better about the Xterra's V-6. I purchased the 14RB from a Nissan mechanic and he said the Xterra's make a lot more horsepower than most people realize. He checked out my Firestone Ride Rite air shock bags and said it was the first time he had seen them on an Xterra. He had seen them on a lot of Nissan trucks (pickups) but never on an Xterra. I asked him if I would need an additional transmission oil cooler and he said the transmission fluid was already routed through the radiator AND a separate transmission oil cooler and that no additional cooler was needed.

Up to about 50 mph the 14rb pulls easier than the Niagra popup we have which weighs over 3000 pounds. After 50 mph the wind drag of the 14rb really takes hold and it seems to pull harder because of the wind resisitance. Even small hills or strong crosswinds caused the Xterra to downshift briefly. I usually cruise 55-60 turning 2000 rpm pulling the 14rb or the popup. Even when downshifting the rpms usually stayed below 3000 rpm. The  popup, as expected, pulls easier above 55 but the difference is not as dramatic as I expected maybe because it is a large heavy popup camper.

Regarding the squeaking problem. I think it is the springs rotating slightly in the shackles. I'll keep trying lubricants until I get it. It's not a real problem, just annoying.

I have owned a lot of popup campers and it really makes me happy to set up in about ten minutes vs the half hour plus for the popup. The time difference is even greater for take down. The 14rb is definitely a keeper.

6:27 am
June 8, 2011


ron_sue

Soddy Daisy Tennessee

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the 3000 rpm limit is what i try to go by too. when i leave here going to a favorite campsite one of the first things i have to do is climb a mile or more of mountain, go down then climb another where the campground is (fall creek falls state park). 3k or so usually means about 45 mph or so going up. coming back though, i just have to climb one but for some reason, i guess because it is steeper i cant maintain that speed in that gear so i either slow down or do 4500 rpm in a lower gear.  i have been told to keep it out of overdrive while towing and i do mostly but on a flat freeway i will generally let it engage.  I had the same observation when i picked ours up as you.  it towed from the dealership to the freeway easier than the pop-ups that i had owned (rockwood and palomino). my main concern was not being able to see over it.  however, i then had to get on the freeway on a windy day with lots of trucks headed for a mountain know for steep grades and run-away trucks and my hand got very tight on the wheel!  on my last outing though, i never even noticed it being a problem. my theory on that is that i built a removable rack in the truck bed that i carry our kayaks on and the boats are acting like an airfoil.

they tow larger trailers with 4cyl. cars everywhere else in the world. bigger is not always better, sometimes its only bigger.

2011 14RB /2006 dodge dakota 4×4 (giddy up 4.7l v8) (whoa prodigy p2) Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul. John Muir

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